Every culture has some unwritten social rules that (most) people abide to. For Brazilians being nice a big thing. For example you offer anything you are going to eat to others before taking a bite, you nicely refuse the bite and only after further probing and being asked 2 or 3 times do you actually accept a favor. Now, this is not to say we did not want the sandwich, or that we did not need help, it is just a social norm. And I follow it... which turns out to be a problem sometimes.
Like when A. and I rented a cabin for the weekend for some friends back in the US, we arrived early and had put our stuff in the master bedroom. When the last couple arrived I (out of habit) asked if they'd like the master bedroom to which they (as good Americans) quickly replied: Sure! A. laughed a lot at the look of dismay on my face, until he realized that I had given out his bed too... meaning we were both bedless.
Fast-forward a few years in which A. tried hard to make me "less nice" with people... And now I'm in Norway, living in an apartment full of boxes (Apt2) with a roommate that is too busy to organize. I asked if I could help (and I really meant it) and she said "no". I asked again... another "no". Yesterday I probed further, as having the apartment as is makes it impossible to cook (which is a must at Oslo prices) and that is getting on my nerves. My roommate again declined, but now she said that she'd rather be the one organizing as she wants things in the place she thinks they should be (meaning she does not trust my organization skills). I understand some people need to be in control of their lives... but to this point?? And then she went on to say that her life is pretty busy right now (work and what not) and that she is hoping to have some time to organize things during the holidays... WHAT??? That is at least 3 weeks away... But I, again, was too nice and said "sure, no problem I know you are busy". And then there is the apartment layout issue...
Here is our new apartment (not drawn to scale... but almost):
I know, weird layout, huh? My roommate found the place and rented it without any input. Ok, fine, I have a lot to do anyway. Then she moved in and gave me the closed bedroom. Great. But after knowing that I have to go through her room to get to the living room and even the bathroom, I'm not so thrilled. How can you have people over if between the kitchen and the dining table you have someone wanting to work or even sleep? So I offered her to take the living room as her room. She was almost harsh and said "no", that she wanted to have a decent living room. Hum... no advance here either!
I can be nice... but sometimes "nice" is so tiring!
Wednesday, December 1, 2010
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I was surprised to read the first part of your post since I expected some kind of a pan-American culture (based on my experience in US). That aspect of Brazilian culture sounded very familiar to my Indian upbringing. However, you are right, it does not work the same way everywhere, certainly not with Americans. Not that that in itself is anything bad. Americans are just super informal in nature and that very aspect can work in positive ways as well.
ReplyDeleteAs to your inconsiderate roommate - which country is she from?
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ReplyDeleteHi DsylexicHippo (love the name by the way),
ReplyDeleteI agree that the straight forward way of Americans in not bad, just needs some adjusting for those that are not from there. And I certainly think that Indians are more similar to Brazilians in the niceness. My roommate (Norwegian) is generally nice, I didn't mean to say otherwise. But a nice person can also be hard to live with... as a friend of mine used to say, "there are friends and then there are people you would actually live with, and these groups don't necessarily overlap much".
Thanks for the comment!
Time to find a new roomate and a new room.
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OMG what a weird floor plan! I just don't quite get why your roomate isn't taking the back room, even if I was keeping my room clean and clutter free I would not like guests to go through it when they need to use the bathroom or go to the living, and not to mention the kitchen smells finding their way in my stuff so easily. And I really don't get why she is not being more considerate and clean her mess, you can only be nice for so long, but if she continues postponing the clean up I would seriously take the matter in my own hand as you both live there and both pay rent.
ReplyDeleteAre you sharing the rent 50 50? If so, this is not acceptable.
ReplyDeleteHi Cyn,
ReplyDeleteYup, weird floor plan... old house I guess. I also would much rather take the back room instead of living next to the kitchen, haven't figured out what her deal is yet.
Hi Anonymous,
Yup, 50:50... Let's see how things go.
Ask her to read this blog and show her what a nasty person we all think she is.
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